va_il
07-04 07:48 PM
Details behind your theory and their source information please
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03-12 02:21 PM
No one is accusing IV
I have a question for Paapu and IV?
WHAT are you all doing? you want our money and our involvement for what?
FOR THIS? ALSO DONOR FORUM IS FOR THIS?
Pappu if you cannot run this organization, please close it, but don't ask of any IV non donor to donate (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/#) for the cause, I proposed to you about holding a rally, IT IS A SHAME this organization FAILED to do ANYTHING AFTER 2007.
ILLEGALS ARE BETTER THAN US, SHAME ON US.
AND SHAME ON YOU GUYS.
Is this not called accusing?
For a rally, we will need several thousands of dollars and 100's of volunteers for several days. I am from NJ. We know how much we struggled to get even half bus filled for 2007 rally.
If you are so seiuos about a rally, start a poll how many are willing to attend on a week day and how much each will contribute Monetarily as well as time and effort.
I have a question for Paapu and IV?
WHAT are you all doing? you want our money and our involvement for what?
FOR THIS? ALSO DONOR FORUM IS FOR THIS?
Pappu if you cannot run this organization, please close it, but don't ask of any IV non donor to donate (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/#) for the cause, I proposed to you about holding a rally, IT IS A SHAME this organization FAILED to do ANYTHING AFTER 2007.
ILLEGALS ARE BETTER THAN US, SHAME ON US.
AND SHAME ON YOU GUYS.
Is this not called accusing?
For a rally, we will need several thousands of dollars and 100's of volunteers for several days. I am from NJ. We know how much we struggled to get even half bus filled for 2007 rally.
If you are so seiuos about a rally, start a poll how many are willing to attend on a week day and how much each will contribute Monetarily as well as time and effort.
greenguru
12-10 02:16 PM
He got his GC.. i will not expect him here.. we need one more VLDrao
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hara_patta_for_rico
07-09 07:54 PM
I feel that they did not violate any clause. Till June 30 which is end of third quarter, they are authorized to approve (3*27%*140K) 113,400. However they approved only 66,400 till May 31. That yields about 47,000 for June alone(10%+any number not used in previous months). The reamining visas are eligible for Jul 1, which is 13,000. Put together June and July1, it comes 60,000. Therefore they did not violate any law. This makes only 126,000. The remaining number was splitted for Consular processing.
my 2 cents...
Do you know that July 1st was a Sunday? A non-working day.
my 2 cents...
Do you know that July 1st was a Sunday? A non-working day.
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eb3_nepa
04-10 08:07 AM
Instead of letting members open 4 different threads, it is best that IV core itself opens the thread in RED so that it catches people's eyes and they post their comments in one spot rather than 4. AND it helps highlight the fact the bulletin is actually out.
StarSun
02-17 09:50 AM
Who is IV?
You and I = WE.
You and I = WE.
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McGuffin
02-23 02:17 PM
Yeah, I need a set done date, I might not be able to get this one done.
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reddymjm
09-10 12:38 PM
EB2 I/C won't be current in the next 4-5 Years, the EB2 I/C demand till date (Today’s Date) is in the 100K - 120K Range. The EB2I/C demand till Jul/Aug 2007 is easily in the 40-45K Range so it will require a very over optimistic scenario to clear by Sep 2011. EB3 ROW will reach end of 2006 by FY 2011. So there is a very long way to go. All the movement is under many assumptions most important being the economy and unemployment, anytime this changes all spillover will collapse and there will really be no difference between EB2 I/C and EB3 I/C.
where is this 120k EB2I and C coming up from, those who haven't filed 485 yet? So you are expecting another july 2007 making all EB2 Current.
where is this 120k EB2I and C coming up from, those who haven't filed 485 yet? So you are expecting another july 2007 making all EB2 Current.
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PresidentO
02-11 01:19 PM
Read this
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf
and tell us, where do you see 13,000 unused numbers?
Desi3933,
+1
People keep falling for the attorney's sensationalism. If he is so *darn* right, why does not he got to DOS and get an explanation on why they did not extend dates further and why DOS did not do the math right. Just because you have a blog does not mean that you can write what ever you want. Well I guess you could. Obviously, our fellow members think that they really lost a chance at the green card. An attorney writes a piece of crap with out substantiative evidence or an authority such as DOS confirming underutilization of visa numbers and our members go on the roof and start yelling What is IV doing?
If any one has looked at the bills sponsored by congresswoman lofgren in the past congress, one of the bills eliminate the spill over of visas from FB to EB and vice versa. If the numbers are coming into EB from FB this year, FB was the one that was supposed to get numbers from EB last year. As I recall during the final Q of 08, DOS announced that there were 22K visa numbers or what so ever that came in from FB and moved dates all the way into Aug 06 for EB2 India. Hence there must *NOT* have been any spill over last year and DOS unable to walk on the slippery slope actually issued 1120 more visas as you pointed and benefitted AOS applicants.
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf
and tell us, where do you see 13,000 unused numbers?
Desi3933,
+1
People keep falling for the attorney's sensationalism. If he is so *darn* right, why does not he got to DOS and get an explanation on why they did not extend dates further and why DOS did not do the math right. Just because you have a blog does not mean that you can write what ever you want. Well I guess you could. Obviously, our fellow members think that they really lost a chance at the green card. An attorney writes a piece of crap with out substantiative evidence or an authority such as DOS confirming underutilization of visa numbers and our members go on the roof and start yelling What is IV doing?
If any one has looked at the bills sponsored by congresswoman lofgren in the past congress, one of the bills eliminate the spill over of visas from FB to EB and vice versa. If the numbers are coming into EB from FB this year, FB was the one that was supposed to get numbers from EB last year. As I recall during the final Q of 08, DOS announced that there were 22K visa numbers or what so ever that came in from FB and moved dates all the way into Aug 06 for EB2 India. Hence there must *NOT* have been any spill over last year and DOS unable to walk on the slippery slope actually issued 1120 more visas as you pointed and benefitted AOS applicants.
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SSSarkar
07-17 10:15 AM
Well done.
I sent an email to Roy Beck - Founder of NumbersUSA about the false information that they present via the fax. I am expecting some reply.
This is email that I sent..........
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Hi Roy,
I am Satish. I am one of many immigrant workers working in USA. Recently, I came across www.NumbersUSA.com website and their propaganda. I respect your service to this country and your steps towards propagating your agenda to the congress. However, when I came across the following fax content intended to faxed to the members of congress from www.Numbersusa.com, I was completely shocked to see the points mentioned in the webfax. Let me give my insight on this.
The fax content is as follows
Dear [This fax will go to Your U.S. Senators and U.S. Representative ]
I oppose any increase in the annual H-1B visa cap, including those in the SKIL Act. I am counting on you to oppose it.
Here are just a few reasons why I hope you will oppose the SKIL Act:
(1) The six-year visas allow foreign workers to bring in their families, and guarantee thousands of anchor babies.
(2) H-1B salaries are tax-exempt - no FICA, no federal or state income taxes. They can live at the same level as tax-paying Americans at a lower cost. Therefore, Congress allows foreigners to "low-ball" American workers.
(3) H-1Bs can leave the job they came to fill and seek other jobs, not necessarily in the "hard to fill" category.
(4) Most H-1Bs are of a "protected" ethnic group, so H-1Bs have an affirmative action preference when competing with Americans for the same jobs.
The result of the SKIL Act would be to further depress the wages of Americans working in high-tech and scientific fields and to cause additional job displacement for those workers.
Sincerely, [Your Name Will Appear Here]
My view on the above points.
1) This is true that foreign workers bring their families. However, I reject the word "guarantee" used in the later part of the sentence. Let me further elaborate on this. When a H1B worker first arrives on the American soil, the worker's spouse and children if any, are on H4 visa. For your information, these dependents of foreign workers are on H4 visa, which is a highly restrictive visa. This visa does not guarantee a social security to women and children. By social security, I mean lot more than just a social security number. In some states, this results in inability to even drive and be completely dependent. Some of H4 people that I know are highly skilled such as Phds, Doctors, MBAs, etc.
2) This is most shocking of all the points. I would love to know the source of this information. I am a H1B worker for last 4+ years. I have paid all my taxes including federal, state taxes, social security taxes, Medicare, FICA, etc. This is not voluntary deduction. All my employers were mandated to deduct just as any American citizen. I would love to debate this with you and NumbersUSA reps, because I have facts and documents to prove this. In fact, Most of H1Bs pay FICA tax, which we simply cannot get after retirement (in this case mostly 6 years on H1B). I would encourage you and NumbersUSA to contact reputed IRS expert to get more information on this. In case you don't get this information. I would be more than happy to meet you in NumbersUSA office along my documents. If some person or employer does not pay taxes being on H1B, that person is treated as tax fraudster, whom I am sure IRS handles very effectively.
3) This is also not true. In my case I had to post my labor on job bulletin board (place where I had to work) for atleast 2-3 weeks with my skills, designation and salary offered. In case if any US citizen interested in this posting, he had an open opportunity to contact my employer about his interest in the job. By the way, salaries of thousands of H1B workers are on par with that of US citizens. Given a chance, I am sure that I can prove that I am better in all aspects of IT programming than some of the best on U.S. citizens. This promotes competitiveness.
4) I would love to have actual source of this information. I know many US registered organizations that hire H1B foreign workers, who worked with fellow U.S citizens without any problems. As far as my knowledge is concerned, most of these employers are "Equal Opportunity Employers".
Roy, America is a unique country that is built on immigrants. This is probably one of the reason why America is amazing in providing civil liberties to all people irrespective of caste, color and race. Also, America has such an immense talent in every field, which makes it a leader in this competitive world.
I certainly welcome yours and NumbersUSA perspective on this email.
Both of us strive to make America more strong and competitive.
Thanks,
Satish
"It is the theory that decides what we can observe."
Albert Einstein
I sent an email to Roy Beck - Founder of NumbersUSA about the false information that they present via the fax. I am expecting some reply.
This is email that I sent..........
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Roy,
I am Satish. I am one of many immigrant workers working in USA. Recently, I came across www.NumbersUSA.com website and their propaganda. I respect your service to this country and your steps towards propagating your agenda to the congress. However, when I came across the following fax content intended to faxed to the members of congress from www.Numbersusa.com, I was completely shocked to see the points mentioned in the webfax. Let me give my insight on this.
The fax content is as follows
Dear [This fax will go to Your U.S. Senators and U.S. Representative ]
I oppose any increase in the annual H-1B visa cap, including those in the SKIL Act. I am counting on you to oppose it.
Here are just a few reasons why I hope you will oppose the SKIL Act:
(1) The six-year visas allow foreign workers to bring in their families, and guarantee thousands of anchor babies.
(2) H-1B salaries are tax-exempt - no FICA, no federal or state income taxes. They can live at the same level as tax-paying Americans at a lower cost. Therefore, Congress allows foreigners to "low-ball" American workers.
(3) H-1Bs can leave the job they came to fill and seek other jobs, not necessarily in the "hard to fill" category.
(4) Most H-1Bs are of a "protected" ethnic group, so H-1Bs have an affirmative action preference when competing with Americans for the same jobs.
The result of the SKIL Act would be to further depress the wages of Americans working in high-tech and scientific fields and to cause additional job displacement for those workers.
Sincerely, [Your Name Will Appear Here]
My view on the above points.
1) This is true that foreign workers bring their families. However, I reject the word "guarantee" used in the later part of the sentence. Let me further elaborate on this. When a H1B worker first arrives on the American soil, the worker's spouse and children if any, are on H4 visa. For your information, these dependents of foreign workers are on H4 visa, which is a highly restrictive visa. This visa does not guarantee a social security to women and children. By social security, I mean lot more than just a social security number. In some states, this results in inability to even drive and be completely dependent. Some of H4 people that I know are highly skilled such as Phds, Doctors, MBAs, etc.
2) This is most shocking of all the points. I would love to know the source of this information. I am a H1B worker for last 4+ years. I have paid all my taxes including federal, state taxes, social security taxes, Medicare, FICA, etc. This is not voluntary deduction. All my employers were mandated to deduct just as any American citizen. I would love to debate this with you and NumbersUSA reps, because I have facts and documents to prove this. In fact, Most of H1Bs pay FICA tax, which we simply cannot get after retirement (in this case mostly 6 years on H1B). I would encourage you and NumbersUSA to contact reputed IRS expert to get more information on this. In case you don't get this information. I would be more than happy to meet you in NumbersUSA office along my documents. If some person or employer does not pay taxes being on H1B, that person is treated as tax fraudster, whom I am sure IRS handles very effectively.
3) This is also not true. In my case I had to post my labor on job bulletin board (place where I had to work) for atleast 2-3 weeks with my skills, designation and salary offered. In case if any US citizen interested in this posting, he had an open opportunity to contact my employer about his interest in the job. By the way, salaries of thousands of H1B workers are on par with that of US citizens. Given a chance, I am sure that I can prove that I am better in all aspects of IT programming than some of the best on U.S. citizens. This promotes competitiveness.
4) I would love to have actual source of this information. I know many US registered organizations that hire H1B foreign workers, who worked with fellow U.S citizens without any problems. As far as my knowledge is concerned, most of these employers are "Equal Opportunity Employers".
Roy, America is a unique country that is built on immigrants. This is probably one of the reason why America is amazing in providing civil liberties to all people irrespective of caste, color and race. Also, America has such an immense talent in every field, which makes it a leader in this competitive world.
I certainly welcome yours and NumbersUSA perspective on this email.
Both of us strive to make America more strong and competitive.
Thanks,
Satish
"It is the theory that decides what we can observe."
Albert Einstein
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indianindian2006
07-14 06:49 PM
Is it possible they are trying to adjudicate my 485. I am EB2 India PD: JAN 2006.
This could be a blessing for you.As your 485 file is now open depending upon your reply if IO is convinced he could easily mail out the GC to you as your dates would be current by the time he looks into your reply.Consult an attorney to frame a correct reply.
Good luck.
This could be a blessing for you.As your 485 file is now open depending upon your reply if IO is convinced he could easily mail out the GC to you as your dates would be current by the time he looks into your reply.Consult an attorney to frame a correct reply.
Good luck.
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abhishek101
12-26 04:06 PM
You have pretty much written my hit list. I could not have put it in better words.
Just to add I work for a bank and to open an account within bank I had to go through a long paper process, whereas any outsider (Citizen/GC) can get it in 5 min online.
But as a bank employee I do understand that while we at bank would love to open all accounts online (less cost and all) the US government has restrictions under Know your customer requirement, that prevents us from doing so. So while most of the business understand that they are losing business they are pretty much restricted by the laws of the land.
there are two ways out of it:
1. Support legislative action for getting GC faster, for that support IV.
2. Make the immigrant group a huge economic success that the business has incentive to provide it better services.
Just to add I work for a bank and to open an account within bank I had to go through a long paper process, whereas any outsider (Citizen/GC) can get it in 5 min online.
But as a bank employee I do understand that while we at bank would love to open all accounts online (less cost and all) the US government has restrictions under Know your customer requirement, that prevents us from doing so. So while most of the business understand that they are losing business they are pretty much restricted by the laws of the land.
there are two ways out of it:
1. Support legislative action for getting GC faster, for that support IV.
2. Make the immigrant group a huge economic success that the business has incentive to provide it better services.
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abhijitp
03-15 08:15 PM
Renewing the call to folks from North California to go attend the Advocacy Days (all 4 days). Others in North California may be able to help you with airfare, etc. (Check the yahoogroup for more details)
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go_gc_way
01-02 11:33 PM
Could you guys please give me the matter to post so that I dont have to type in the whole story again...thanks
sbabunle, It's at the start of this thread. Please grab it.
sbabunle, It's at the start of this thread. Please grab it.
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sugaur
05-28 09:44 PM
I Wish the border patrol was doing its job more efficiently and doing more searches not less. This way !@#$% illegals would be kicked out and our immigration process wouldnt be held hostage by them.
I live near the Mexican border. There are border check points everywhere when you leave the city. They will stop you, ask you your status. First time I didnt have my passport or anything. He checked my drivers license and politely reminded me about the requirement to carry immigration documents. Since then, I always carry a copy of passport and H1B and have never had any problems.
I hate it when people cry and feel like they are being persecuted when asked to follow the law.
I live near the Mexican border. There are border check points everywhere when you leave the city. They will stop you, ask you your status. First time I didnt have my passport or anything. He checked my drivers license and politely reminded me about the requirement to carry immigration documents. Since then, I always carry a copy of passport and H1B and have never had any problems.
I hate it when people cry and feel like they are being persecuted when asked to follow the law.
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akshaya10001
07-13 03:19 PM
Few points to add......
Assuming EB1, EB2, EB3 & EB4 demand is same as 2009. This year spill over will be at least extra 7000 visa's.
There are 10,000 overflow from 2009 FB Visa's, assuming that ~30% goes to EB3 remaining 70% goes to EB1, EB2, EB3 and EB4. Which all overflow in to EB2 which eventually allocated to EB2 India & China.
EB2 India assured of additional 6000 visa's (85% of spill over) compared to last year.
The reasons we don't see recession effect on spillover, actually spill over numbers are down for last 2 years are
1> EB1, EB2, EB3 & 4 ROW was always current but due to uscis in-efficiency there were many pending cases in the system which got cleared in 2009.
2> ROW EB3 porting to EB2.
Now 1st point got cleared in 2009 itself, which was indicated by August 2009 inventory list this was 1st inventory report to bring transparency. uscis want to look good so they cleared in efficiencies in 485 due to this spillover numbers in 2009 are less than 2008.
second point is the only negative for spill over numbers.
Clearly there are stats & messages that about 30% less PERM cases filed in 2009 & 2010, so consumption demand in ROW category will be going down.
So we are going to see good thing due to spill over in the current Quarter, we can guess, speculate but we need to wait till next inventory report what was this effect is, most likely this trend will continue at least next year. It is clear that in next 6 months we won't see great expansion of economy & even ROW demand picks up in mid 2011 they will come to visa numbers stage after Sep �2011.
HOPE we are going to have GREAT SPILL OVER DAYS DURING NEXT 15 months; the people who won't get cleared during this time frame have to be helped by reforms only.
Assuming EB1, EB2, EB3 & EB4 demand is same as 2009. This year spill over will be at least extra 7000 visa's.
There are 10,000 overflow from 2009 FB Visa's, assuming that ~30% goes to EB3 remaining 70% goes to EB1, EB2, EB3 and EB4. Which all overflow in to EB2 which eventually allocated to EB2 India & China.
EB2 India assured of additional 6000 visa's (85% of spill over) compared to last year.
The reasons we don't see recession effect on spillover, actually spill over numbers are down for last 2 years are
1> EB1, EB2, EB3 & 4 ROW was always current but due to uscis in-efficiency there were many pending cases in the system which got cleared in 2009.
2> ROW EB3 porting to EB2.
Now 1st point got cleared in 2009 itself, which was indicated by August 2009 inventory list this was 1st inventory report to bring transparency. uscis want to look good so they cleared in efficiencies in 485 due to this spillover numbers in 2009 are less than 2008.
second point is the only negative for spill over numbers.
Clearly there are stats & messages that about 30% less PERM cases filed in 2009 & 2010, so consumption demand in ROW category will be going down.
So we are going to see good thing due to spill over in the current Quarter, we can guess, speculate but we need to wait till next inventory report what was this effect is, most likely this trend will continue at least next year. It is clear that in next 6 months we won't see great expansion of economy & even ROW demand picks up in mid 2011 they will come to visa numbers stage after Sep �2011.
HOPE we are going to have GREAT SPILL OVER DAYS DURING NEXT 15 months; the people who won't get cleared during this time frame have to be helped by reforms only.
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GCBy3000
01-16 10:10 AM
I have already signed up through my bank to send $20 everymonth to IV. It will also have memo with my name gcby3000.
So you can count me against $20.
So you can count me against $20.
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HV000
02-14 12:47 PM
The spirit of US is to united everyone from different countries and races to live together to be loyal to the same country. But truly they don't want too many immigrants from one or two specific country. That is why they setup the country limit rules. So the population for all the immigrants from differnet places grows up about equally in this country. I think this is normal to every country. I believe every country will do the same if they are facing a lot immigrants. If the other day many immigrants from other countries want to go India, Indian gov. will do the same.
Just to be curious, where is the fight the OP mentioned. Can OP link us or is it just OP think there is a fight?
I agree with your point that US wants to bring people from over the world and not just few countries. The removal of Country quota WILL NEVER happen. May be they will atleast slightly increase the quota for oversubscribed countries.
Just to be curious, where is the fight the OP mentioned. Can OP link us or is it just OP think there is a fight?
I agree with your point that US wants to bring people from over the world and not just few countries. The removal of Country quota WILL NEVER happen. May be they will atleast slightly increase the quota for oversubscribed countries.
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javadeveloper
05-15 05:50 PM
I also know cases where during the time of campus placement, all A grade companies required US citizenship/Green Card status. Imagine doing a 100K+ investment and then listening to this crap - ooops you do not have GC......right now we are not sponsoring H1-B...........
The way I look at it - Unless I have GC and the freedom to move around in any job or any area, what is the point doing MBA? My hands are still tied with H1-B tag. It is like buying a race car and driving it on an unpaved road. Fee free to disagree.
And I totally understand that GC can take 10+ year if not more.
I Agree.
But what I feel is it's better to work as Manager(& in higher positions) in India than A developer/Lead in USA.
I'll become old and loose interest in career By the time I get GC and completing mba .
The way I look at it - Unless I have GC and the freedom to move around in any job or any area, what is the point doing MBA? My hands are still tied with H1-B tag. It is like buying a race car and driving it on an unpaved road. Fee free to disagree.
And I totally understand that GC can take 10+ year if not more.
I Agree.
But what I feel is it's better to work as Manager(& in higher positions) in India than A developer/Lead in USA.
I'll become old and loose interest in career By the time I get GC and completing mba .
StarSun
02-02 08:28 AM
Members who have pledged airline miles or stay in the registration form, please use this thread.
snram4
04-10 03:34 PM
One of the main reason for EB3 in 2001 is From 2000 to 2003 they increased H1b from 65 to 180K. Most people came those time was BA, BSC and B TECH. So most would have applied by EB3 and also from 2000 more than 60% of H1bs were Indians. It may take a few more years to clear 2001 to 2003. But there could be some spill over from Eb2 in 2 years time. So from 2012 Eb3 may move fast. Still 7 to 10 years waiting period may not change unless some bil or CIR is passed. But it should be noted that H1B Cap applications received this year is around 13500. So past 2 years slow down will make PD to improve.
We are looking at Annual Report of Immigrant Visa Applicants - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/WaitingListItem.pdf
On Page 1. - "The petitions of applicants who will be processed at an overseas post are forwarded by CIS to the Department of State"
Our Interpretation: As USCIS processes I140 Applications, and I140 Applications has Field for Consular Processing options, they would Direct those Applications to DOS Via Above Process.
Question:
Are this Numbers are total VISA demand recorded at DOS?
Anybody other Views?
We are looking at Annual Report of Immigrant Visa Applicants - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/WaitingListItem.pdf
On Page 1. - "The petitions of applicants who will be processed at an overseas post are forwarded by CIS to the Department of State"
Our Interpretation: As USCIS processes I140 Applications, and I140 Applications has Field for Consular Processing options, they would Direct those Applications to DOS Via Above Process.
Question:
Are this Numbers are total VISA demand recorded at DOS?
Anybody other Views?
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